tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4323202250325013491.post4545139043842570480..comments2007-08-18T16:21:30.705-05:00Kevin Gamblehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00659162207319457717noreply@blogger.comBlogger4125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4323202250325013491.post-60794527154504943672007-08-18T16:21:00.000-05:002007-08-18T16:21:00.000-05:002007-08-18T16:21:00.000-05:00Thank you for all of your comments. I've been traveling and not as responsive as I should have been.<BR/><BR/>I think Elgg is going to rock. It just makes too much sense to put the learner in the center of this, and NO ON is going to trust a commercial entity to do the right thing with something as personal as their learning. That's a given.<BR/><BR/>The issue Mitchell revolves around who manages the learning? I'm arguing that it should be in the control of the learner.Kevin Gamblehttp://www.blogger.com/profile/00659162207319457717noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4323202250325013491.post-76541115030009937642007-08-17T09:09:00.000-05:002007-08-17T09:09:00.000-05:002007-08-17T09:09:00.000-05:00This is an issue that continues to haunt us.. proprietary environments only seek to standardize when it is profitable to them.. or to build market share. Once they have market share.. they stop. and even retreat.<BR/><BR/>Kevin is hitting on a major idea hear.. but I differ in one part.. most of what he is talking about is a learning system.. there is no management in it! And before I get corrected.. I need to stress.. there is such a thing as a structure managed environment that is learner centered! The very man who much of this is based on (Malcolm Knowles) required learning contracts in his classes.. but allowed the student to define the learning system! He created a structure that ensured he knew if the student was in progressing, he had rules,.. he managed them to the extent "they" needed him too.. <BR/><BR/>That said.. we have to move to looking at more comprehensive and standard systems that allow us to use all sorts of learning systems. An instructor should be able to use any tool in a learning management system if the structure is setup right and managed effectively.. Blackboard is a poor benchmark.. it doesn't even come close to the systems used in industry.. we are way behind.Mitch Owenhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/05473731591789740902noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4323202250325013491.post-68999514788848622472007-08-17T04:01:00.000-05:002007-08-17T04:01:00.000-05:002007-08-17T04:01:00.000-05:00Bill's very much right. There are serious data ownership issues, not to mention the fact that Facebook reserves the right to sell information about its users to anyone. I don't think that's an ethical approach for an institution.<BR/><BR/>As for Elgg ... serious developments are afoot there, which will make it more adaptable to vastly different kinds of applications.Ben Werdmullerhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/09054648703618199546noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-4323202250325013491.post-13108773684980124232007-08-16T16:04:00.000-05:002007-08-16T16:04:00.000-05:002007-08-16T16:04:00.000-05:00Read Facebook's terms of Service. When you put content there, you give them extensive rights over your work. <BR/><BR/>The types of functionality you describe are available within a few open source applications, including, but not limited to, Drupal, Moodle, or Wordpress, or WPMU.Bill Fitzgeraldhttp://openacademic.orgnoreply@blogger.com